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«Trayus»
Age : 17
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Localisation : Poland, Gorzów Wielkopolski
|  Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade  Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:32 pm | |
| | International Hate wrote: | | Rzeczpospolita wrote: | | Most people here don’t like obscene parades and don’t wish any take place. |
Here neither. Most people don't like neo-nazi demonstrations for example, but still those aren't banned. freedom of opinion you know... |
I believe that every Neo-Nazi demostration is banned over here.  |
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Communist Gipsy
Age : 25
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Localisation : Финляндия
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:37 pm | |
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Communist Gipsy
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| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:44 pm | |
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bobhatersfriend
Age : 15
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Localisation : USA
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:52 pm | |
| | Nazism is banned in the USA too lol =) I believe its banned basically everywere... i think it is because of being offending to all the people who lost there grandparents..or something |
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Communist Gipsy
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| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:56 pm | |
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Communist Gipsy
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| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 5:58 pm | |
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bobhatersfriend
Age : 15
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Localisation : USA
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:11 pm | |
| | well people aren't aloud to speak positive about it.. once i said in class something positive about Hitler and the teacher told me if i said anything like that again i would be in big trouble...if people wear something that has to do with Nazism in the street they would be in big trouble...my friend was in the park and he said "Hitler's awesome" and the lady walking her dog turned to him and asked "Excuse me?" with this really scary tone... all my friends were like freaked out lol |
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Communist Gipsy
Age : 25
Joined : 21 May 2007
Posts : 107
Localisation : Финляндия
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:14 pm | |
| | bobhatersfriend wrote: | | well people aren't aloud to speak positive about it.. once i said in class something positive about Hitler and the teacher told me if i said anything like that again i would be in big trouble...if people wear something that has to do with Nazism in the street they would be in big trouble...my friend was in the park and he said "Hitler's awesome" and the lady walking her dog turned to him and asked "Excuse me?" with this really scary tone... all my friends were like freaked out lol |
Yes ofcourse people aren't aloud to speak positive about it, but you're still free to express it. I think your teacher lied  I don't know really about US, but:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfFCGPAzYA |
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Rzeczpospolita
Age : 27
Joined : 08 Jun 2007
Posts : 390
Localisation : Gdansk, Poland
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:33 pm | |
| | International Hate wrote: | | Rzeczpospolita wrote: |
Why do you think that everything must be very liberal? Most people here don’t like obscene parades and don’t wish any take place. |
Well i don't think everything must be very liberal, but as far as i know ex-soviets has very liberal economics, so i thought other kinds of liberalism would be appreciated there too. Atleast i thought that civil liberties would have been taken care of. Maybe not then... |
This is not true about liberal economy in most post-communist countries. Estonia is rare exception. I would oppose neo-Nazi rally as well, I don’t share this concept of freedom of speech by all means. It leads to anarchy. |
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Communist Gipsy
Age : 25
Joined : 21 May 2007
Posts : 107
Localisation : Финляндия
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:37 pm | |
| | Rzeczpospolita wrote: |
This is not true about liberal economy in most post-communist countries. Estonia is rare exception. |
That can be true. I have a little bit Estonian side of view, because i have not much to do with any else ex-Soviet than Estonia.
| Quote: | | I would oppose neo-Nazi rally as well, I don’t share this concept of freedom of speech by all means. It leads to anarchy. |
I don't share "concept" of freedom of speech at all. I don't think freedom of speech has much concepts. Either there is freedom of speech, or there's not. Ok ofcourse there's different levels of freedom, but definately not concepts. Ok i think freedom of speech is an utopia, but an good utopia. It should be our destination |
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«Trayus»
Age : 17
Joined : 08 Jun 2007
Posts : 193
Localisation : Poland, Gorzów Wielkopolski
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:46 pm | |
| | Why Nazi demonstrations are banned in Poland? Maybe because 99.9% of Polish hate/dislike Nazis, because they killed milions of us before, and Nazism is against our ''race'' anyway? |
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Rzeczpospolita
Age : 27
Joined : 08 Jun 2007
Posts : 390
Localisation : Gdansk, Poland
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:57 pm | |
| | International Hate wrote: |
I don't share "concept" of freedom of speech at all. I don't think freedom of speech has much concepts. Either there is freedom of speech, or there's not. Ok ofcourse there's different levels of freedom, but definately not concepts. Ok i think freedom of speech is an utopia, but an good utopia. It should be our destination |
Of course you are right, this is language monster as well as your levels There is no real freedom of speech but some limits are necessary to coexist. |
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bobhatersfriend
Age : 15
Joined : 23 May 2007
Posts : 130
Localisation : USA
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:22 am | |
| | Quote: | | Why Nazi demonstrations are banned in Poland? Maybe because 99.9% of Polish hate/dislike Nazis, because they killed milions of us before, and Nazism is against our ''race'' anyway? |
U are soo0o0 right!! why would you demonstrate Nazism in Poland? They killed so many Polish people!!!
I believe Nazism is bad.. I would understand demonstrating it somewere in the USA because....well idk
but in countries like Poland, Russia, Ukraine, England and stuff.. thats just stupid because they killed so many people and Nazis were against them! |
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Helena
Age : 17
Joined : 17 May 2007
Posts : 139
Localisation : Eesti/Estonia, Tallinn
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:57 pm | |
| I actually can't drop the idea that those neonazies are not totally OK. Why should anyone bend to some dead dictator? I could understand if he was alive but he's already history. It has no point.
And it's also a little bit sick to hate a whole race or nation, to think that one race or nation (your own one) is the only one that's right, and all the other people have born with no purpose. |
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malmal
Age : 25
Joined : 22 Jun 2007
Posts : 5
Localisation : Vilnius, Lithuania
| | Subject: Re: Lithuania bans EU-sponsored gay rights parade Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:21 am | |
| | I personaly think that it is not a question of gay or not gay banning, it is a question that authorities can ban any protest or anyone who they do not like, so it seems very undemocratic to me. So it is a question about citizen rights. If they banne done protest action they can do the same to other protests, like demanding better education conditions or better health or social care. It just showed that authorities are still higher then citizens, even if they are elcted by them. Not much changed since colaps of USSR same menatality and way of thinking. Still need to be done a lot to become reall democratic country. |
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