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Voodoo
Joined : 13 May 2007
Posts : 108
|  Subject: Putin  Tue May 15, 2007 2:59 am | |
| Freedom of speech???
Putin is asshole!
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|   | | Risto
Joined : 13 May 2007
Posts : 61
Localisation : Estonia
| | Subject: Re: Putin Tue May 15, 2007 4:14 pm | |
| | Kaspar wrote: | Freedom of speech???
Putin is asshole!
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Care to name any considerable reasons? |
| | | | Voodoo
Joined : 13 May 2007
Posts : 108
| | Subject: Re: Putin Tue May 15, 2007 4:27 pm | |
| | Well, Russia has porblems with democracy, journalism, relations with other counties and unions. And Putin leads that crappy system. |
| | | | Hypno
Intelligent member
Age : 19
Joined : 15 May 2007
Posts : 192
Localisation : Kuressaare, Estonia
| | Subject: Re: Putin Tue May 15, 2007 6:57 pm | |
| After Putin retires he can make money with singing reggae songs:
Putin's first international hit song- Ja! |
| | | | DerDieDas
Joined : 14 May 2007
Posts : 78
Localisation : BRD
| | Subject: Re: Putin Tue May 15, 2007 8:24 pm | |
| Putin = 
He is a gread guy who has build up his country. |
| | | | Voodoo
Joined : 13 May 2007
Posts : 108
| | Subject: Re: Putin Tue May 15, 2007 8:28 pm | |
| i think he wont retire, he will remain leading country on background  |
| | | | Hypno
Intelligent member
Age : 19
Joined : 15 May 2007
Posts : 192
Localisation : Kuressaare, Estonia
| | Subject: Re: Putin Tue May 15, 2007 9:32 pm | |
| | Hmmm I have heard about him going to be a president for life. At least that's what Kremlin suggests atm. |
| | | | linked f
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| | Subject: Re: Putin Wed May 16, 2007 6:36 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Well, Russia has porblems with democracy, journalism, relations with other counties and unions. And Putin leads that crappy system |
well, Estonia has problems with democracy (see events of April 26-28, freedom of self-expression as an example thereof), journalism (one-sidedness of reflection of the above-mentioned situation), relations with other countries and unions (NATO and the EU not to be considered the only unions in the world). And hr. Ansip leads that crappi system. Even more - he leads it to total collaps    |
| | | | chasm
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| | Subject: Re: Putin Wed May 16, 2007 7:08 pm | |
| | Quote: | | well, Estonia has problems with democracy (see events of April 26-28, freedom of self-expression as an example thereof), journalism (one-sidedness of reflection of the above-mentioned situation), relations with other countries and unions (NATO and the EU not to be considered the only unions in the world). And hr. Ansip leads that crappi system. Even more - he leads it to total collaps |
you have no idea, do you? otherwise explain |
| | | | Risto
Joined : 13 May 2007
Posts : 61
Localisation : Estonia
| | Subject: Re: Putin Wed May 16, 2007 7:13 pm | |
| | linked f wrote: | | Quote: | | Well, Russia has porblems with democracy, journalism, relations with other counties and unions. And Putin leads that crappy system |
well, Estonia has problems with democracy (see events of April 26-28, freedom of self-expression as an example thereof), journalism (one-sidedness of reflection of the above-mentioned situation), relations with other countries and unions (NATO and the EU not to be considered the only unions in the world). And hr. Ansip leads that crappi system. Even more - he leads it to total collaps |
What have you against the tomb being in the graveyard where it should be? |
| | | | Voodoo
Joined : 13 May 2007
Posts : 108
| | Subject: Re: Putin Wed May 16, 2007 9:22 pm | |
| Yea, whats wrong graves and gravemarks being in graveyard?
Why Russia is makeing so big deal of it?
Becouse russians are raised in knowledge that Russia saved world from evil facism, its foundation of Russia. .
But it is not true, cccp-s meaning was to dominate world, not save countries.
Also there where aful crimes that cccp did.
So relocation of statue was act that ignitiated need to look back at history.
Communism was no better than fascism, worse actually if you look amount of innocent people that got killed.
Eu is allready doing that.
That truth will harm Russia from in- and outside in future. |
| | | | DerDieDas
Joined : 14 May 2007
Posts : 78
Localisation : BRD
| | Subject: Re: Putin Wed May 16, 2007 9:42 pm | |
| | Quote: | | Communism was no better than fascism, worse actually if you look amount of innocent people that got killed. |
 It isnīt true. If you look of the idology of both systems, you will see that fascism is much worser than communism. And cccp really saved the world from this evil facism, maybe they have done it just to survive, but it doesnīt matter. Third reigh attacked cccp an was destroyed.
| Quote: | | That truth will harm Russia from in- and outside in future. |
Why should it harm Russia? Russia isnīt a communist country any more. (Perestroja, Gorbatschow, etc.)  |
| | | | LPF
Joined : 16 May 2007
Posts : 76
| | Subject: Re: Putin Wed May 16, 2007 10:21 pm | |
| | chasm wrote: | | Quote: | | well, Estonia has problems with democracy (see events of April 26-28, freedom of self-expression as an example thereof), journalism (one-sidedness of reflection of the above-mentioned situation), relations with other countries and unions (NATO and the EU not to be considered the only unions in the world). And hr. Ansip leads that crappi system. Even more - he leads it to total collaps |
you have no idea, do you? otherwise explain |
democracy- the power of majority... apparently most of the people wanted the statue being moved... in democratic country it is not legal to throw rocks at policeman and it is not legal to destroy streets.
one-sideness you have proof? if you do, please prove it 
estonia is not big enough to make business or to trade oil with brasil or the virgin islands
putin sucks
thank you |
| | | | Hypno
Intelligent member
Age : 19
Joined : 15 May 2007
Posts : 192
Localisation : Kuressaare, Estonia
| | Subject: Re: Putin Wed May 16, 2007 10:36 pm | |
| | linked f wrote: | | well, Estonia has problems with democracy (see events of April 26-28, freedom of self-expression as an example thereof) |
Freedom of self expression is allowed here. But it's not allowed to throw everything near you at police officers. And the 'protest' that was going on there was not offically allowed by the government, people just randomly showed up, so it was rather illegal. And those rules are in every democratic country.
| linked f wrote: | | journalism (one-sidedness of reflection of the above-mentioned situation) |
Our journalists weren't one-sided (most of them), they rather took the facts and stated their opinion. There were journalists against the whole thing also btw. And talking of one-sidedness... Take a look at Russian media from that time...
Also, additional material for you to think about:
Worldwide press freedom ranking of countries:
Estonia sharing 6th place with Norway
Russia- 147th place
That's out of 168 total. Not bad 
Check yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reporters_Without_Borders
| linked f wrote: | | relations with other countries and unions (NATO and the EU not to be considered the only unions in the world) |
Our relationships with democratic countries around the world is good. And what unions did you mean then? Please be more specific.
| linked f wrote: | | And hr. Ansip leads that crappi system. Even more - he leads it to total collaps |
The opposite- Mr. Ansip is leading in a good direction, imo atleast. I'm happy with his actions, as 76% of estonians (according to a Postimees poll on 27th april). |
| | | | vJ
Age : 20
Joined : 17 May 2007
Posts : 88
Localisation : Finland // Estonia
| | Subject: Re: Putin Thu May 17, 2007 2:23 am | |
| | DerDieDas wrote: | | Quote: | | Communism was no better than fascism, worse actually if you look amount of innocent people that got killed. |
It isnīt true. If you look of the idology of both systems, you will see that fascism is much worser than communism.
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how you think fascism is much worser? explain us please. |
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