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PostSubject: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 5:16 pm

Naši = SSW-Jugend
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 6:06 pm

I think that they get paid for doing what they do. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 7:49 pm

Yes, you discovered one difference lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 8:27 pm

Nashi is a new generation of youth which works for their country.
They do something to make Russia a better place. afro
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 9:27 pm

Their idea is to restore Soviet Union, you know, that organisation that murthered over 10milj people including 20% of their own people. Interesting understanding you have of nice place.


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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 9:30 pm

Kaspar wrote:
Naši = SSW-Jugend

word Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 9:32 pm

They are against communists and fashists. Why they should want to restore the Soviet Union? Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 9:35 pm

DerDieDas wrote:
They are against communists and fashists. Why they should want to restore the Soviet Union? Rolling Eyes


because Putin said taht the collapse of the soviet union was the biggest geopolitical mistake (catastrophe) in the 20 century
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 9:40 pm

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because Putin said taht the collapse of the soviet union was the biggest geopolitical mistake (catastrophe) in the 20 century

And now? Of course it was a catastrophe and everyone in Russia would agree with Putin. But it was the fault of the soviet policy ant that is the salient point. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 9:41 pm

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They are against communists and fashists. Why they should want to restore the Soviet Union?

Go learn more about them.

There is even word for it našism=restoreing soviet union.

Their last action was, speading leaflets about how good was soviet union, it was full of lies
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 9:45 pm

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There is even word for it našism=restoreing soviet union.

It was given by their opponents and it is just a kind of polemic. Just empty words.


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Their last action was, speading leaflets about how good was soviet union, it was full of lies

Which lies were on this leaflets?
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 9:45 pm

Soviet Union collapsed becouse communism is economically impossible, it leads to defisency and market crash.

How collapse of soviet union was bad? Look what they did, there was no freedom for people, they murthered over 10 million people, they brainwashed people(workes untill today as we see) occupied over 20 countries, tried to dominate world and so on...
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 10:02 pm

It was historical information, i dont remember, it was on tv, dont find it from internet. Something i remember that fascism is growing in russia and europe, lol fascism died out with hitler
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 10:07 pm

Communism ist economically possible, but it has a lot of disadvantages and must be controlled by "perfect people". geek

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How collapse of soviet union was bad?

How? scratch Hmm :

Unemployment,
inflation,
corruption,
insecurity,
crimes,
etc.

There was also a lot of freedom for people. Maybe not in policy, but in other sectors. The people had their work, the children had something to do. (camping, sport activities.. etc.) The education- and the healthcare systems were on a really high level..


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occupied over 20 countries
And Russia was the only one which was "not-occuped" ? Aha.. Suspect


p.s. Soviet Government killed more than just 10 million people.
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 10:12 pm

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It was historical information, i dont remember, it was on tv, dont find it from internet. Something i remember that fascism is growing in russia and europe, lol fascism died out with hitler

Maybe the call skinheads and nationalists just with a simple word "fascists". It isn´t so false, that we can see this kind of development in Russia and Europe. I think it is a great Idea to do something against that. pirat
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 10:17 pm

DerDieDas wrote:
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How collapse of soviet union was bad?

How? scratch Hmm :

Unemployment,
inflation,
corruption,
insecurity,
crimes,
etc.
Those problems are in most countries who's government system is radically changed (here from communism to democracy). After all, our economy started to grow faster than ever before. MUCH faster than during the Soviet times (did it grow then?).

And I'm not saying all was bad then. The healthcare was good, employment was good, I'm sure lots of other stuff also. But there were more bad things than good Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 10:27 pm

Hey, I just answered the question. I agree with you, that most countries had this problems. But this changing could be done much more softly.
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 11:04 pm

DerDieDas wrote:
Hey, I just answered the question. I agree with you, that most countries had this problems. But this changing could be done much more softly.
Hmm more softly? You mean over longer period of time? Imo we were REALLY close to get the independence. There was an attempted coup d'etat in Moscow and if it had succeeded we'd still live in Soviet Republic of Estonia, with probably another 20% dead and/or deported.

And anyway, the soviet union collapsed without us, we couldn't have slowed it anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Wed May 16, 2007 11:18 pm

I don´t talk about Estonia and their "fight for independence" Rolling Eyes . Soviet Union is collapsed and that is the thing which I have criticized. This corrupt government was able to begin this "perestroyka" much earlier and more efficient. But what have they done? Nothing!

Have you seen this leaders of the Soviet Union? elephant They had absolutely no sence for reality.

But we are Off topic now, lets talk about Nashi. afro
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Thu May 17, 2007 1:01 am

Kaspar wrote:
Soviet Union collapsed becouse communism is economically impossible

communism is possible, look at china Wink

and soviet union bad things isn't only genoside, also remember the enviromnent catasthrophes by CCCP.. tshernobyl and lake aral for example..

now continue the good things list CCCP achieved Smile

EDIT: sorry I forgot nash(z)i.. you can find information about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashi_%28Ours%29

so to be simply, nashi is for brainwashing also the young people of russia.
anti fascism lol.. fascism died by mussolini and hitler.. I cant believe russia can still grind this shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Thu May 17, 2007 1:37 am

Communism means that commune members are equal, it didnt happen in Russia and also peole arent equal in China, it is impossible. It was pre-communism in Russia. There was planned economics in cccp, it is impossible also, people cant control market forces, it creates defisency and ends with crash.
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Thu May 17, 2007 11:25 am

Kaspar wrote:
Communism means that commune members are equal, it didnt happen in Russia and also peole arent equal in China, it is impossible. It was pre-communism in Russia. There was planned economics in cccp, it is impossible also, people cant control market forces, it creates defisency and ends with crash.
Well, China is doing a bit better job maintaining control atm than SSSR did.
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Thu May 17, 2007 11:36 am

Young people like Nashi is a hope for Russia. They will buid up their country and don´t look at some propaganda reactions in other countries.

lol! GO, Nashi ! afro
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Thu May 17, 2007 1:44 pm

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Well, China is doing a bit better job maintaining control atm than SSSR did.
Becouse china uses communistic ideology to control people, but economically its more capitalism, so it wont crash like Russia did.

This kind of movement and policy increases "democracy", "free journalism", "freeedon of speech", "relations to other countries". It leads russian people to cccp and blindness and Russia to war - your people to death.
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PostSubject: Re: Naši   Thu May 17, 2007 1:49 pm

DerDieDas wrote:
Young people like Nashi is a hope for Russia. They will buid up their country and don´t look at some propaganda reactions in other countries.

lol! GO, Nashi ! afro
in that case why should understand why we support Ansip. He is doing what estonians voted him to do for, and dont " look at some propaganda reactions in other countries."
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