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PostSubject: Central Europe   Sun May 20, 2007 4:16 pm

What are the things first comes into your mind about those Central European countries which were also behind the Iron Curtain? What can be heard about us? Have you ever visited any of these? (Poland, Czech Rep. Hungary...)
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun May 20, 2007 10:09 pm

dont know much about those countries, feels like Poland is haveing good relations with Estonia and better in future. sunny

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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Mon May 21, 2007 9:32 am

I know Poland is angry with Russia for not letting their meat into the country.

I'v been to Poland, Czech Rep., Hungary and Slovakia. They seemed decent enough. Not as good as what I'v seen in for ex. Spain, but still not the worst Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Mon May 21, 2007 10:24 pm

Hypno wrote:
I know Poland is angry with Russia for not letting their meat into the country.

I'v been to Poland, Czech Rep., Hungary and Slovakia. They seemed decent enough. Not as good as what I'v seen in for ex. Spain, but still not the worst Smile

Aha, and compared to Estonia?
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Tue May 22, 2007 12:17 pm

Kiskun wrote:
Hypno wrote:
I know Poland is angry with Russia for not letting their meat into the country.

I'v been to Poland, Czech Rep., Hungary and Slovakia. They seemed decent enough. Not as good as what I'v seen in for ex. Spain, but still not the worst Smile

Aha, and compared to Estonia?
I wasn't there long enough to be able to compare them Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Tue May 22, 2007 9:49 pm

We visited DDR, Czechoslovakia and Hungary at the last moments they were behind the iron curtain. Nice memories. We have good friends in Praha from this time. We made a new trip a year after liberation. In all the countries the attitude to soviets was very BAD. It felt odd that a country had to construct a wall to keep its own citizens inside. Normally walls were used in opposite purpose, except in prison. What was funny in socialist time: the amount of different stamps and permissions needed. And strange regulations. Maybe there are files in some archive of a finnish young couple travelling by motorbike around the area. Who might be interested. They must have the consumption of the bike filed cause gas had to be bought by special tickets, if I remeber right. Anyway: people were GREAT!
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Wed May 23, 2007 11:00 pm

Kakeporo wrote:
We visited DDR, Czechoslovakia and Hungary at the last moments they were behind the iron curtain. Nice memories. We have good friends in Praha from this time. We made a new trip a year after liberation. In all the countries the attitude to soviets was very BAD. It felt odd that a country had to construct a wall to keep its own citizens inside. Normally walls were used in opposite purpose, except in prison. What was funny in socialist time: the amount of different stamps and permissions needed. And strange regulations. Maybe there are files in some archive of a finnish young couple travelling by motorbike around the area. Who might be interested. They must have the consumption of the bike filed cause gas had to be bought by special tickets, if I remeber right. Anyway: people were GREAT!

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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:48 am

Our meat goes to Russia. Thru Belarus. Russia is creating problems, because they* don't want to treat every EU country equal. If somebody is interested in this, he knows this. It is not the metter of politics, but agriculture and trade Wink

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|* They - russians. I know, that our meat in EU have good opinion
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:00 pm

I will quarrel with You here, all EU countries accept our meat, and don't see anything wrong with them, our services checked the meat, so as other countries for example the Finnish Prime Minister, I think it was Matti Vanhanen, anyway nothing was found to be wrong, it really seems to be a matter of politics, Kremlin just want piss us off for whatever the reason is.
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:26 pm

«Trayus» wrote:
I will quarrel with You here, all EU countries accept our meat, and don't see anything wrong with them, our services checked the meat, so as other countries for example the Finnish Prime Minister, I think it was Matti Vanhanen, anyway nothing was found to be wrong, it really seems to be a matter of politics, Kremlin just want piss us off for whatever the reason is.

In my area there's no meat imported from Poland or any other country, I guess it's because it's too far from the border.. Anyway, our own agriculture is in pretty bad shape so I don't see why we should import meat from Europe. We must support and protect our own agriculture.
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:29 pm

It's obvious because the meat isn't really marked that it's from any country in the shops usually, and our agriculture is in good shape, before You say anything please read some books, articles, anything scientific, not some propaganda newspapers like ''Pravda''.
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 12:41 pm

«Trayus» wrote:
It's obvious that You don't see any since it's export to Russia is blocked, and our agriculture is in good shape, before You say anything please read some books, articles, anything scientific, not some propaganda newspapers like ''Pravda''.

Before you say something like that please read my previous posts. I'm sick&tired of explaining everybody here that I don't read "Pravda"

I live in a city in a 13 hours drive from Moscow, and there has never ever been any other meat but local (except chicken), which is very good for the local industry and agriculture. And if our goverment will block most of the import from EU, it will be great. For us not you. Sorry but like I said before, nobody cares about our problems and we're not gonna care about someone else's.
All the best.

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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:08 pm

Thank you , well I certinly care about the cituation in Russia. But closing yourself in, seperating from others is not the best way to become a good partner. I meant no disrespect, sorry. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:26 pm

One thing is not importing meat to support local farmers, with possibly long notice beforehand, other thing is to ban the meat and call it bad or unhealthy, leaving the Polish meat companies with nothing but trouble.
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:36 pm

Agreed.
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:52 pm

Hypno wrote:
One thing is not importing meat to support local farmers, with possibly long notice beforehand, other thing is to ban the meat and call it bad or unhealthy, leaving the Polish meat companies with nothing but trouble.

Yeah, I guess that's not very good. But can you say for sure, quite frankly, that the meat was okay? I can't be so sure...
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 6:54 pm

I am 100% sure that it is totally good and healthy, other countries don't have a problem with it, whole EU was helping us in the negotiations with the Russian government, why Russians do have a problem with it, since nothing is actually wrong?
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:08 pm

«Trayus» wrote:
I am 100% sure that it is totally good and healthy, other countries don't have a problem with it, whole EU was helping us in the negotiations with the Russian government, why Russians do have a problem with it, since nothing is actually wrong?

Then say thank you to your goverment 'cause it's their job to sort these kind of things out. If they want to be friends with the US and enemies with Russia they can sell the meat to America... sounds a bit cynical, but that's the way politics is.
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:10 pm

They tried, so as EU, none sucseeded mainly because your government doesn't want to accept the meat, and what's the problem? Your country could accept the meat before, now not? You don't know yourself don't You?
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:30 pm

«Trayus» wrote:
They tried, so as EU, none sucseeded mainly because your government doesn't want to accept the meat, and what's the problem? Your country could accept the meat before, now not? You don't know yourself don't You?

Well, there's a reason for that. It's not just a whim. Maybe your president should say something like "I love Russia" or something Laughing
Russia's very big, and I live here far away from Poland and Moscow and there's so much going on down here other than the Polish meat, and it doesnt affect my life at all, so just wish you all the best and I hope that" That time will come one day you'll see when we can all be
friends"

PS My grand-grandmother was from Poland, though I don't know much about her...


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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Sun Jun 10, 2007 7:32 pm

I don't see You as my enemy, and my life isn't about meat trading, I'm just very curious and disturbed. pirat Har har. Same to You.
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Mon Jun 11, 2007 7:12 am

I told you, why Russia is making problems with meat. They doon't want to treat every EU country equal. Russia want to treat Poland (and other countries) apart from EU, because it is easier to have better position in trade.
A farmer who is selling a lot of ee... pig meat to Russia thru Belarus told me that ;-)

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Well, there's a reason for that. It's not just a whim. Maybe your president should say something like "I love Russia" or something
Good joke! Very Happy
He should better fly away to nowere instead of beeing president...
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Mon Jun 11, 2007 9:44 am

NowhereMan wrote:
Maybe your president should say something like "I love Russia" or something Laughing
You mean their president should lick Russia's a*s? Man my opinion of Poland would drop faster than a Boeing 737 on a Sunday morning after being hit with an anti-aircraft missle.
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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:51 pm



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PostSubject: Re: Central Europe   Mon Jun 11, 2007 4:00 pm

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You mean their president should lick Russia's a*s? Man my opinion of Poland would drop faster than a Boeing 737 on a Sunday morning after being hit with an anti-aircraft missle.

Yeah, lools like American a*s taste better... Anyway, I didn't mean anything like that at all. You said that.
And what about the Boeing being hit by a missile? I didn't get it.
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