People Are Same Everywhere

This international forum is for people from ex Soviet Union countries. Politics acts shouldn’t be cause of international hate. Aim is communication and dialog between people with different views. Be friendly and tolerant, speak English.
 
HomePortalGallerySearchRegisterMemberlistUsergroupsFAQLog in

Share | 
 

 Alternative Energy

Go down 
AuthorMessage
patrickg



Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2007-05-22

PostSubject: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 6:14 am

Maybe I'm being really naive here, but has Estonia ever tried nuclear power? Again, maybe this is from a lack of knowledge, but I think that Estonia's use of nuclear fission to run the power grid, along with other countries doing the same would severely impact Russia's grip on the Estonian and European economies.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Risto

avatar

Number of posts : 61
Localisation : Estonia
Registration date : 2007-05-13

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 9:39 am

There have been talks to build a nuclear power plant but it never got further from the idea. I also think that many of us are against one.(Chernobyl)

Other energy sources are used though like wind, sun and water.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Voodoo

avatar

Number of posts : 108
Registration date : 2007-05-13

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 9:50 am

Building nuclear energy station is very expencive, they maybe build it to Latvia, Estonia would use energy from there also. But i think Estonia should make it, few nuclear weapons also Razz
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Krissukristel

avatar

Number of posts : 70
Registration date : 2007-05-16

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 11:56 am

Quote :
But i think Estonia should make it, few nuclear weapons also
aww I'd like it

but frankly I dont understand what right has USA and Russia to say that other countrys (Iran etc) can not own a nuclear weapon. I mean, you have it, and I can't have it?
Not that I want Iran to have it. It would be a disaster if every country would have a nuke power. but still, unless they distroy theirs (unlikely) they have no right to deny anyone IMO
Back to top Go down
View user profile
patrickg



Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2007-05-22

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 4:45 pm

Krissukristel wrote:
Quote :
But i think Estonia should make it, few nuclear weapons also
aww I'd like it

but frankly I dont understand what right has USA and Russia to say that other countrys (Iran etc) can not own a nuclear weapon. I mean, you have it, and I can't have it?
Not that I want Iran to have it. It would be a disaster if every country would have a nuke power. but still, unless they distroy theirs (unlikely) they have no right to deny anyone IMO
Well, I'm sure most of my American friends would be shocked at this, but I agree. I don't see the logic either. And I don't want my country to get rid of its nuclear weapons...
About Chernobyl, I think we all need to remember that it was run by a communist government, and thus under some relatively high degree of incompetence. The idiots turned off the cooling system! Nuclear power in the free world is quite different. The closest thing my country ever had to a disaster was Three Mile Island, and that was averted by safety mechanisms that were on Cool and worked properly. Today, the plant still produces power. France derives something like 75% of its electrical energy from nuclear power, and companies like Toshiba, who has recently developed a safe and small nuclear reactor, are working every day to make the technology safer and more reliable. At this point, I would certainly trust a well-made fission reactor over Russian gas lords and Putin....
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NowhereMan

avatar

Number of posts : 350
Age : 35
Localisation : Russia
Registration date : 2007-05-17

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 6:05 pm

Quote :
The idiots turned off the cooling system!

My life has just changed. For years specialists could not say for sure what had happened there, and I am glad that we finally know the truth!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
patrickg



Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2007-05-22

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 6:11 pm

NowhereMan wrote:
Quote :
The idiots turned off the cooling system!

My life has just changed. For years specialists could not say for sure what had happened there, and I am glad that we finally know the truth!
yes, i misspoke, the truth is:
" automatic control rods were pulled out of the reactor beyond what is allowed under safety regulations."
-wikipedia.
btw, never trust a soviet state media source. of course their "experts are unsure" communist governments are liar governments by nature.
Oh, and add to that the fact that it was Sweden who figured out that the soviet union had dumped its radioactive result of incompetence all over europe...what a shame...
Back to top Go down
View user profile
NowhereMan

avatar

Number of posts : 350
Age : 35
Localisation : Russia
Registration date : 2007-05-17

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 8:18 pm

Again wikipedia, again soviet media... oh God...

Actually, I am looking forward to a day when Europe will no longer depend on Russian oil and gas. Maybe then, our government will try to do something. They now are trying to implant a new concept of the “energy super state” in people’s mind. I ask you, since when a raw materials-producing appendage is called a “superstate”???

But I still don’t like nuclear energy. In my area, they were going to build a nuclear power station in the end of the 80s. But there was a referendum and people said no. Now there are rumors about building the station again Sad
Back to top Go down
View user profile
patrickg



Number of posts : 11
Registration date : 2007-05-22

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 8:33 pm

ok, well, let's set the stereotypes aside for a moment and look at the issue from a purely scientific view. There has been a lot of work done in the recent past to ensure the safety of nuclear reactors, and they have come a long way. I just read an article about a new nuclear reactor that may power a village in Alaska. It is an experimental one designed by Toshiba, and it will be able to last 30 years without refueling. In addition, it requires less staffing, and less maintenance. Of course, one must be able to understand the public's fear about nuclear power- most have been brought up to believe that it is used for destruction, and cannot safely be used for peaceful energy. But the facts dictate otherwise. It can be (and is being) used for efficient, safe, clean, peaceful energy production. I think there should be some kind of information campaign to let people know that this technology is not society's enemy, it can be our best friend.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Risto

avatar

Number of posts : 61
Localisation : Estonia
Registration date : 2007-05-13

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Wed May 23, 2007 10:07 pm

I think they should stop upgrading nuclear power plants and concentrate more on thermonuclear technology. That is the future. rabbit
Back to top Go down
View user profile
vJ

avatar

Number of posts : 88
Age : 30
Localisation : Finland // Estonia
Registration date : 2007-05-17

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Sun Jun 03, 2007 4:47 pm

to be honest, at the end modern nuclear power is the most safe, clean and cheap way of energy now.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
vJ

avatar

Number of posts : 88
Age : 30
Localisation : Finland // Estonia
Registration date : 2007-05-17

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:20 pm

patrickg wrote:

Oh, and add to that the fact that it was Sweden who figured out that the soviet union had dumped its radioactive result of incompetence all over europe...what a shame...

yeah, gorbatshow heard first time about what happened in chernobal from sweden lol.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Helena

avatar

Number of posts : 142
Age : 26
Localisation : Eesti/Estonia, Tallinn
Registration date : 2007-05-17

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:43 pm

I can't say that I'd like nuclear power very much.
1. The risks are too big. If something bad happened in the plant it would cause a catastrophe.
2. I've heard that near the nuclear plants still born much more disabled people than in other areas (so we can say that some of them are still not safe enough). There have been cases in which cooling water has been led straight to the nature on purpose. In my opinion - as far as people are so careless that this kind of things can happen, they shouldn't use the nuclear power. Otherwise we won't be able to use our planet Earth any more.
3. The waste. Where are we going to put it so we would never have to deal with it any more? I have seen many tv-interviews about the nuclear plants. On this topic the experts always start to talk in circles.
4. Money. It would cost a lot for us. This is also a topic which the experts are trying to avoid. First, building of the station would cost a lot. Secondly, right now the prices of radioactive fuel keep rising. We don't know how much it would cost after 15 years (the plant would start working about then) and if we would have any point to build it up as using it would take so much money. Thirdly, the maintenance of the plant would also cost a lot.
By the way, if some rich people who lead the project would notice that it all took too much money, what do you think, which of these three groups of spendings they would decrease? Razz
Back to top Go down
View user profile
svybski



Number of posts : 59
Registration date : 2007-07-31

PostSubject: solar   Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:50 pm

Helena wrote:
I can't say that I'd like nuclear power very much.
1. The risks are too big. If something bad happened in the plant it would cause a catastrophe.
2. I've heard that near the nuclear plants still born much more disabled people than in other areas (so we can say that some of them are still not safe enough). There have been cases in which cooling water has been led straight to the nature on purpose. In my opinion - as far as people are so careless that this kind of things can happen, they shouldn't use the nuclear power. Otherwise we won't be able to use our planet Earth any more.
3. The waste. Where are we going to put it so we would never have to deal with it any more? I have seen many tv-interviews about the nuclear plants. On this topic the experts always start to talk in circles.
4. Money. It would cost a lot for us.

what about solar power? Didnt they have some progress with it?

(i heard that wind power is not enough because of high costs and so called EROEI is low, energy return of the energy investment)

personally i do not understand why people use so less solar power... why is that? scratch


....no waste, no risks, it is equal (you dont need to buy solar radiation!!), costly perhaps???
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Hypno
Intelligent member
avatar

Number of posts : 192
Age : 28
Localisation : Kuressaare, Estonia
Registration date : 2007-05-15

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:23 pm

Solar power technology is not advanced enough. It may be "green" and stuff but atm it's not worth it (the energy you get from there is not that much and it takes lot of space AND it has requirements like lots of sunny days etc etc).


...I think...

_________________
I <3 Wiki
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Rzeczpospolita

avatar

Number of posts : 390
Age : 36
Localisation : Gdansk, Poland
Registration date : 2007-06-08

PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:44 pm

Hypno wrote:
Solar power technology is not advanced enough. It may be "green" and stuff but atm it's not worth it (the energy you get from there is not that much and it takes lot of space AND it has requirements like lots of sunny days etc etc).


...I think...
I agree, it is even much worse than wind energy that also need proper weather conditions. Both are costly.
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: Alternative Energy   

Back to top Go down
 
Alternative Energy
Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Use clean energy and get a pollution free environment
» Chatbox alternative
» [TCG] Movie Pack: Blue-Eyes Alternative White Dragon
» [CODE] Save Energy
» Flash Player Not Working All Of A Sudden In Google Chrome But Works In IE

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
People Are Same Everywhere :: Political :: Estonia-
Jump to: